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Alright guys, something I’m going to hammer home a lot over the next kind of few episodes in some way or another is something that I’ve really talked a lot about already in my book, Conscious Coaching, my online course, Bought In and all of these things, but I think it bears repeating great coaching cannot be scripted.

There is no drop down menu for every scenario. There is no way that when you’re leading people, when you’re managing with them or managing them, anything like that, that you are going to be able to refer to some sheet that is going to tell you the, the research or what the research says about the best way to act in every single moment.

The reason is because of context, because of unpredictability, because of the complexity of human relationships and human interaction. Human behavior can’t be predicted. Elements of it can for sure, and we see that in advertising and certain parts of data and analytics, but when people are interacting, it’s very much like chess.

This is actually the first line of my online course Bought In. As we talk about within a certain amount of moves, just a few under 10 in chess, over 120 million different movement combinations still exist. It’s endless. It’s interdependent on so many different factors. Now, the reason I’m talking about this is simple.

A lot of times when people come to our workshops or anything like that, it’s obvious that they crave more slides, more handouts, and we provide anywhere from 200 slides and six to seven handouts. You tend to find that most coaches still feel like they want something in their hand that guides them during every interaction.

Now, by doing that, you muddy the coaching process because coaching is something that has to be experienced firsthand. It has to be experienced. You have to experience what it is you want to express.

But ultimately it’s a social process that’s on you and the research confirms this. One of the biggest reasons that art of coaching exists is because research in coaching and leadership makes it clear that we have relied way too long on these kind of prototypical, step-by-step, wishy-washy leadership kind of continuum’s that act as if all these things are irrational or rational, knowable sequence or not.

Great coaching isn’t clean. It’s not. This is a big reason why we do improvisation at our events. We do breakdowns. We do film reviews because typically, you only learn what you wish you would’ve said after the moment you said it. And a lot of this is what today’s episode is about, albeit in a different context.

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Today, I’m joined by Martin Rooney and we’re talking about all things Art of Coaching. Martin’s got a new book coming out. We talk a little bit about that, but most importantly, we just talk about how coaches have to put themselves in these situations, these pressure oriented circumstances where they have to be the one that figures out their communication style and their lateral strategy.

The question I hate most, and I know hate is a strong term, but hear me out. It is when somebody reaches out and asks, “Hey, I can’t get buy-in. What do I do?”. We have to create a culture that understands that’s not even an appropriate question to ask. We have to say, “Hey, I’m having trouble with a 13 year old girl from the Philippines who is nervous because X, Y, and Z happened, and coaches are putting pressure on her. I’m having trouble relating. These are things that I’ve tried. This is why I’ve tried them and this is why I thought they would be effective”, right? That’s, what we’ve got to start getting coaches to ask.

You don’t approach it by chance, you ask targeted questions, and so that’s a lot of what Martin and I are trying to get people to think about.

Now, Martin’s got a rich, deep reservoir of experience here and like me, he’s on a mission to make better coaches and we both know that we’re not perfect. Martin is a former us bobsledder, he’s a former Division I track athlete and he’s the creator of a training system called Training For Warriors. Martin has consulted with a lot of different companies, ranging from fortune 500 to other companies like Nike and Prudential. He’s coached members of the Giants, the Jets, and now he’s working in high schools. He’s a guy that is on this show because like the rest of us, he is a regular Joe that is trying to improve.

He’s not just trying to work with one population. He’s not trying to isolate his perspective and that is what this podcast is about because the Art of Coaching is about the art of leading and management. It is not vocation specific. Coaching is leadership. If you teach others, if you guide them, if you mentor, if you listen to them, if you relate to them, if you want to be there for them and help them, you are a coach.

I don’t care if you’re an accountant. I don’t care if you’re a teacher. I don’t care if you’re an athletic director. I don’t care what you are. You’re a coach. If you guide and lead others, and all of this is applicable, so please think outside the box. Encourage your friends to do so too. Just because a book or a podcast is written or hosted by a strength and conditioning coach, or a Navy seal or somebody that owns their own business stuffing Teddy bears, that doesn’t mean that those things, the lessons in part, don’t transcend into other fields.

That’s what we could use your help with and we think you’re going to love today’s episode. Martin always brings it, he’s a fired up guy. His book, Coach To Coach, comes out March 10th. Give us your feedback. We want to hear from you. Enjoy this episode!

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